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Ian's Storm revised!

Enough questions about Ian's of the lightning Bolt boomerang. He has drawn up the plans for a new one and here it is. A larger file will be loaded to the photo album "Ian's Boomerang Project" which can be accessed through the links.

Update: I made a version from Ians photo in 4mm plywood and thested it. Ths one has way too much lift. I may try reducing the chord on the wings and/or reducing the size of the center hub.

Added on July 27, 2007 by bvdrangs

Updates from Ian

After Ian left my place Saturday, he continued to work with the boomerangs. Here are notes from a few emails over the weekend.
 
Dave

I completed the priming on all of the boomerangs that will be painted.  All
of them will be painted except for the regular Austrailian ones, as you
know, plus the "Ian Hook".  I started to paint one bat one in brown
already.  I just did flat brown on it, and hope to have the detail started
and finished tomorrow.  I had trouble on a little section on the left wing,
however.  The brown paint was not adhering very well, so my dad told me to
cover all of the area up except for the problematic area and prime it and
sand it again.  I painted over it and it looks a lot better, but still not
perfect.  It appears that painting may be a long process. 


I think we should take next weekend off.  The painting is more than enough
to keep me busy for awhile and I would like to just concentrate on that.  I
also have to redesign the thunderboom.  Also, I am doing the journals step
by step, rather than day by day.  If I were to do it day by day, there would
be too much to say in too little of a place.  Its just better and really
more organized to do it step by step.  I just wanted to let you know so as
when I show them to you to write any comments you know.  I think I have two more mandatory entries to go.


Continuing later: I have one bat done!  I looks okay, but not as good as I would have liked.   There isn't anything more I can think of that would make it look better. The picture is not as good as it really is when you have it in front of you  in your hands.  Tell me your opinion.

And later: I have one bat with a brown base color and light brown detail.  I am doing the blinky bat with a black base color and brown detail.  That leaves two bats with more color choices than bats.  There is either a black base with midnight purple detail or midnight purple base with black detail or brown base with black detail or light brown base with black detail.  I need you to pick two of those three choices.  I can't make up my mind.  I must do one of the ones that include midnight purple for sure.

Ian
 
Photo: Two of Ian's Batarangs
 

Added on July 23, 2007 by bvdrangs

Third Session July 21, more testing and shaping

Today I met Ian at the field and we went right into testing the boomeangs from last week. We decided the Aussie booms were fine, but had to work on the otheres. Back to the shop where I added some undercut to all the wings on the five blader. I also took a little more off the trailing edge. To the batrangs I added some undercut to the dingle arm only. We also sanded a musical note rang and took that along.

Well, the five blader was good enough that I caught it on my finger. Ian also had a catch so we figured those were in the bag as-is. The batarang was better but still not close enough. The musical note flew and tried to return but was too far away. Ian's lightning bolt flew, but had short rang and lost spin quickly. Back to the shop for more work. We added a bit more undercut to the batarangs. I attempted to flip the other lightning bolt blank over and sand it reverse of the first. Unfortunately my brain shut down and before I could think again, had made a left hand rang. Ian decide to sand anothe five blader and had a lefty attack too. We gave up and went to the field for anther test round.

Third time to the field we were getting good returns from the batarangs, so good that the incomng boomerangs scared us. I am not catching them! I still wasn't happy with the musical note so took it home again. Once there we traced  out a replacement 5 blader and a couple more batarangs. Ian got more experience on the bandsaw. He also used the drill press to drill holes for blinkies in one of the batarangs. His favorite tool was a palm sander, and he did all the finish sanding. Ian took the batarangs, five bladers and aussies home to start painting.

Photo: The problematic Bolt Boomerang


Added on July 21, 2007 by bvdrangs

Messing with night boomerangs

Ian and I want to do a few night boomerangs. There is still the thought of using a sparkler in one but right now we are looking at how to use blinkies or body lights. In order to try this, I bid on some blinkies on ebay and they arrived this week. I noticed that they came in a two or three battery version. The two battery is smaller but the three has a higher intesity light and blink speed.

I decided to make a test boomerang for them and had just finished sanding a Kingsnake design, a variant of Bob Burwell's Adder with longer wider wings. I drilled the holes ablut halfway up the wings and mounted two blinkies. I am going to try for a test flight in the daytime to see if the blinkies have made any major difference in the flight. If all goes well, I can test it at night. From there Ian and I can decide how to use them  in the boomerangs we are building. I'll put a couple photos of the boomerang in the gallery. Check the album marked night rangs.

Afternoon update: What's with the wind lately???? Despite the hefty wind, I had pretty good control. I got to test a lapjoint boomerang from Australian Lacewood, another from Tulipwood and another from strip laminated pieces I received from David Fantone. Once those were tested I got to try the boomerang with blinkies installed. It works quite well with the 2 battery version so I may actually try the three battery version in it too. Nice flight! Ian will be pleased it the Batrangs work that well.

Dave

Photo: Blinky installed in the boomerang and operating!



Added on July 20, 2007 by bvdrangs

July 15th Part 2: Flight Testing

Ian and I headed to the field. I guess we should have been prepared for the wild wind conditions. It was 15 to 20 mph and gusting higher. The directions went was constantly rotating about 90 degrees. My first couple throws were terrible. The wind was driving the boomerang backwards and into the ground. I was changing direction for the throws often and found that throwing directly into the wind was better than to the right of it.  The boomerangs would still dip and dive in unusual manners. Ian was getting off better throws than I was. It was beginning to make me wonder. I decided to watch his throws.

 

Ian was releasing a bit higher than I was, maybe what some of us call a humpback throw, which is useful in the wind. Here I am taking lessons from the student instead of the other was around.

 

After all our throws we still were not satisfied with performance. I think the traditionals are fine. The five arm boomerang was traveling much further than I expected and not getting a full return, even in the wind. I plan on adding some undercuts to the leading edge of each arm, which should shorten up the range. The Batrang was a different matter. My opinion was that it way trying to ess out at the end. My first throws were not getting full returns at all. Ian had some pretty good returns, narrowly missing the catch on one. Still, the flights I was getting could be more typical. Ian and I want to ask our friends out there for suggestions on what to do to improve the flights. One thing we should consider is to take them out on a more normal day and see if that changes the flights. Please feel free to let us know your suggestions and comments by clicking on the add comment button below.

 

Dave

 

Photo: Ian testing a Batarang

Added on July 16, 2007 by bvdrangs

July 15th Part 1: Shaping boomerangs

Sunday July 15 th and Ian come to my place to work. First off was cutting out the remaining boomerangs from last week. This was Ian's chance to learn to work with a different tool. I set him up with the band saw and watched carefully over his shoulder. It is quite different when the blade is stationary and the piece being cut moves. You need to remember to move the wood in the correct direction. Ian had problems with this but with me there to coach, he did just fine. It was certainly easier than using the jig saw last week.

 
With all the boomerangs cut out, we switched to sanding. We moved my belt sander outside the garage to take advantage of the breeze. The helped keep us cooler, but also blew the dust away too. This became evident when I attempted to take photo and was standing downwind. I got a face full of sawdust! I started Ian out with a few boomerang blanks made from expanded PVC. These sand quickly and gave him the idea of how to shape the airfoils. I then switched him to a sample boomerang in 5mm plywood. Ian quickly found out that you had to apply more pressure to the wood if you wanted to get anything done. Ian was doing a pretty good job of sanding so I got him to work on some of the project boomerangs.


He managed to do a great job on the traditional shape boomerangs and went on to the Batrangs. These proved to be tougher to do because of the many curves. Ian did both Batrangs and traditionals.  At this point he had boomerangs with roughed out airfoils so I had him switch to a small diameter drum sander mounted in my drill press. This allowed him to get the smaller curves in the Batrang and also to smooth out or soften the edges more on the rest of the boomerangs. He was doing great. We had three ePVC boomerangs, 2 Batarangs, 2 traditionals, one 5 arm boomerang and the sample boomerang he practiced with ready to test. I'll continue with the testing in the next journal entry.

Dave

Photo: Ian sanding a Batrang



Added on July 16, 2007 by bvdrangs

Notes from Ian

Dave pretty much explained most of the project already. However, to maybe clear up some other questions you may have, I will give more information. At Allen, in addition to the many other graduation requirements, you must complete an extensive project. There are many options, such as what I am doing, creative work, but also communtity service, research essays, cultural projects, and culmulative projects. All of the options require a school advisor, which is your homeroom teacher. The advisor is responsible for handling paper work that must be handed in to the graduation project office. Mentors are mandatory in most of the project catogories, but not all. Creative work did require a mentor. As Dave said, the project began back at the end of last year. Before you began working on your project, however, you had to submit a proposal stating many things from the type of project to what you planned to learn from the project to your time line of the project and get it approved. Although this sounds easy, its easier said than done. Many kids have a hard time figuring out all of that stuff and getting it in with the due date, and it is also difficult to get your ideas accepted by the teachers who approve or dissaprove the proposal. Luckily, I encountered no issues with that. Once approved, you can begin. The project is due just before Thanksgiving. During the Fall Break, Seniors will come in on appointed days and present their project to about three teachers. The oral presentation must last so long (I think 5 minutes but it may be 3) and requires certain things to be addressed. The oral presentation must be accompanied by a visual. You will be graded on those two things, plus, as in my case but perhaps not others, a journal of at least ten entries and a two page double spaced reflexive essay. You can either recieve as "outstanding", "satisfactory", or "unsatisfactory", which would need remediation. That just about covers most of the info about the graduation project.
 
Ian
July 10, 2007
Added on July 10, 2007 by bvdrangs

Ian's Project, Part 2

I thought it might be good to give a bit of background on Ian's project. This really started way back around Christmas when Ian asked me to be his mentor for the project. Since the project was about boomerangs, I felt qualified to help and agreed. I had to sign all kinds of forms and permission papers. Ian also had to get a teacher to sponsor the project and instead of going to his art or phys ed teacher, he went to his physics teacher. I guess the science aspect of this project is too much to resist.





Once Ian got school approval, we started laying the ground work. I provide Ian with reading material but Ian took on the daunting task of going through Pierre' s database and selection possible plans. Ian and I exchanged a number of emails regarding his selections before he finally narrowed his selections to the following four plans: Australijski, AR_rued1_2mmgfk, Batrang and Flyingnote. Ian set to work at designing a boomerang using lightning bolts, a design that morphed from a three blade to a four blade. I thought the Australijski allowed him to pursue the artistic part of making boomerangs by providing a simple canvas. The Batrang I was originally worried about because of its many points, but I think we will do fine with it. I also though about making it in 4mm plywood rather than the larger version in 5mm. The larger one won out in the end. The AR_rued1_2mmgfk was a bit of a brain teaser until I figured out how it got named. I am guessing the "AR" stands for Australian Round, the "2mmgfk" is the thickness and material and the "rued" is part of the designers name. I have some G10 material but thought that for a first timer we needed to stick with plywood. We "guesstimated " a radius of 5.5 inches and used 4mm plywood.


Since Independence Day just passed, Ian thought about a boomerang that used a sparkler to light the night sky. I suggested he contact Bob Burwell, who I knew had experience with this type of boomerang. Bob sent Ian photos not only of the sparkler fitted boomerang, but also suggested alternates such as LED and cyclume light sticks. I don't know where we will go with that part of the project but time will tell. I haven't told Ian about trying to use "blinkies" yet. Blinkies are those crazy flashing lights you see in stores as pins and such. I think we could easily mount a couple in a boomerang for an exciting effect. Check out the night boomerang photos in the gallery at: http://journal.rcn.net/boomerangdave/gallery/226/


Thanks to those who posted comments, both Ian and I appreciate them and hope you will continue to post as we work our way through the project.


Dave
 
Photo: Ian with a few cut out blanks ready to sand.

 

Added on July 10, 2007 by bvdrangs

Ian's Project Parrt 1

  I haven't really been making boomerangs very much any more. Yesterday was a new beginning. I have an email buddy in high school named Ian. Ian has to do a senior project as a requirement for graduation. Part of the project involves journaling what he does. Ian decided to learn how to make boomerangs. He needed a mentor for the project so you can guess who he asked.


I thought it would be best to have Ian know something mmore about boomerangs, how to make them and how they work. I got Ian copies of the Herb Smith book on making boomerangs and the Powerpoint presentation by Tom Connolley on how they work. Ian studied these as preparation for the project. He also looked at over 1000 boomerangs plans on Pierre Kutek's site (http://www.kutek.net/boomplans/plans.php) . Ian selected plans and had me review his selections. He finally narrowed down his selections to four from the database and one of his own design. The five designs range form a simple Australian style boomerang through to a 5 blade boomerang with a large center cutout. These should provide us plenty of work to make.


We printed out the plans and calculated how much to enlarge them, since they usually don't fit a standard sheet of paper. Ian cut the plans out and set to tracing two of each on on the 4mm or 5mm Finland Birch plywood we were using. Then the fun started. Ian had never used a jig saw before and here he was with expensive plywood trying to learn on cutting unusual shapes. Things went a little rough on the first boomerang but with a little coaching he got a steady hand and things improved with each cut. We got half the boomerangs cut out and decided the jig saw method was taking a lot of time to cut things right. We were trying to do some of the work in Ian's yard but I knew that a 14 inch bandsaw was in my garage that would make cutting the tough shapes much easier. Ian cut apart the remaining blanks so we could continue with cutting the next time. Even with me doing a little of the cutting to give Ian a rest, the jig saw does a lot aof vibrating and will wear out a newbie pretty fast. With the real purpose of the project being to teach Ian how to make boomerangs, I saw no point in torturing him when there were better tools and methods available. The jig saw is fine for one or two boomerangs at a time.


There is still a lot to do. We need to finish cutting the blanks, then sand the airfoils. Once we get that far we can test fly them to make sure they all work. After that we will finish sand them to get them ready to paint or decorate. Ian is a good artist so I am anxious to see how the final boomerangs turn out. This is a real fun time and Ian and I enjoy working together. We welcome your comments and suggestions about the project. Just click the + Add Comment link below the journal entry.


Photos from each session will be uploaded to a webshots album at: http://community.webshots.com/album/559798566cbHJMM



Photo: Ian cutting out a traditional design


Added on July 08, 2007 by bvdrangs
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